Milestones, Boundary Markers, Historical Artifacts, Street Furniture, lost roads and buildings.

There are many traces of our ancestors scattered around our landscape. Mile Markers and Boundary stones are there too. The Milestone Society believes that there are approximately 9000 left in the United Kingdom. Some are cherished but others are hidden in hedgerows, some have been unwittingly destroyed by crashes, road equipment or even stolen. Roads have been straightened to make them safer. There are old gateposts still left in place, old buildings, and place names that declare an evocative past. The aim is to capture some of this information at least photographically before it disappears.

Although the Fylde Coast does not have ancient history, the Romans apparently struggled to Kirkham. There have been huge changes in the last two centuries from literally a a few fishermans' and agricultural dwellings, to a full blown tourist and light engineering industry.

More historical information can be found here about the Fylde coast.

It also seems that time has marched on and left what appears to be some very respectable buildings... which just should be used, but seem to have no worth.

Links from this Blog

Nearly-Midnight The genealogy website relating to the family. A tangled web of people all related to one another, explore!
Memorials Website dedicated to War Memorials - The majority in the North of England. Visits to churches, but also memorials in out of the way places.
Robert Clark The Father of Henry Martyn-Clark - A missionary out in the North-West Frontier of India. One of the first Europeans to set foot in Afganistan
Affetside Census
A small village north of Bury, Lancashire, I can trace many of my immediate ancesters from there. On the Roman Road, Watling Street
Andrew Martyn-Clark My Father and his part in my World. Also my mother and his parents too.
Henry Martyn-Clark My Great Grandfather, his roots and his achievements. Discusses malaria but also his confrontations with Islam.

Thursday, 27 December 2012

The Old Bank - Warley and Dickson Road, Blackpool

Decus Prudentiae Merces(Honour is the reward of prudence)
 
Oh no! he's gone all Latin again. Actually its on the crest of the NatWest bank at the corner of Warley road and Dickson road. Got to own up it looks really out of place on the corner. However it is a symbol of a bygone age. Fine piece of stone work, especially the crest. Destined to be flattened, may even have been by the time you read this. The pictures together with some descriptions, followed by excerpts from the planning documents.I knew it as a NatWest Bank, but maybe this building's history starts here.
Close up view of the crest above the main door.
The perspectives have been straightened in Gimp

Looking down Warley road from the front entrance.
The brick building is the Hilton Hotel formerly known as the Pembroke hotel.
I feel that some of this metalwork, concrete may have survived the demolition of the Derby Baths


The Hilton Hotel. It sits where the Derby Baths used to be.

The Hilton is to the right, on top of the the wall sits the "Old Bank"
Looking down the other side of Warley road.
Threre was a bloke in one of the windows watching me intensely.
What he thought I was up to who knows.
The church building is the Kings Christian Centre


View from Warley Road. This is side of the "Old Bank"
The Derby Supper Bar is across the Dickson road.
Members of my family have worked there in the past.


From the lower end of Dickson road. The main entrance is clearly visible.

The same shot but a slightly wider angle. The Hilton is behind.
Close up of the crest above the door.

Looking down Warley road. The church is visible in the background.

The close up of the front of the building. The entrance is set at an angle.

Slightly wider view of the "old Bank"

Looking past the bank towards Gynn Square
The side of the bank

Derby Supper bar on the right, Bank on the left looking towards the Gynn

Looking towards the town Centre.
The Pembroke(Hilton) is on the right.
Blackpool Tower is in the distance. The town centre is about 3/4 mile away.

The Hilton Hotel from the back. It occupies the same site as Derby Baths.
(No real objection to that being flattened!)
The Steel framed building going up.
Possibly see just the back of the Hilton

Same shot!

The antique shop that has faced the Old Bank for well... decades

Looking down Dickson road to the Gynn roundabout

Still looking down from the other side of the road.
The ownership of many of the properties has changed. Not sure where the Derby Supper bar is/was any-more!



Beneath are some excerpts from the planning permission documents:


PROPOSAL:
Erection of single storey retail store (Use Class A1) including vehicular access from Dickson Road and egress onto Warley Road and provision of 12 car parking spaces and servicing area, following demolition of existing building and associated changes in land levels.

LOCATION:
THE OLD BANK, 35 WARLEY ROAD, BLACKPOOL, FY1 2AG


The site is that of the 'Old Bank' which has a site area of 920 sqm and is located on the prominent south-west corner of the junction of Warley Road and Dickson Road. It has a frontage of 28 metres to the former and 33 metres to the latter. The land to the north and west of the site slopes away making the application site the highest point in the immediate area. These varying land levels further emphasise the site's prominence within the wider streetscene and make it highly visible from all sides. The existing single storey building sits adjacent the Dickson Road footway but is set back from the Warley Road frontage by approximately six metres. There is currently a single useable access/egress point on Dickson Road and a car park to the rear of the building.

The site is within the Defined Inner Area and Resort Neighbourhood and sits adjacent the Dickson Road Local Centre, as designated in the Blackpool Local Plan 2001-16. Although it is not part of the centre itself, the properties immediately to the north and east on Dickson Road do fall within the Local Centre. To the south and west of the site are grounds belonging to the Hilton Hotel. The building has previously been used as an advertising agency, and a bank prior to this (both uses are Use Class A2). In recent years the building has been vacant.

 
Following the demolition of the existing building (approximate gross floor area of 180 sqm) the proposal involves the erection of a single storey retail store (Use Class A1) which will occupy the north east corner of the site, sitting adjacent the footway on both Dickson Road and Warley Road. The new building has a Dickson Road frontage that will be 25 metres long, a width of 17 metres and will be a similar height to the former bank (5 metres high at the north east corner). The external elevations consist of a mixture of brickwork, cladding and a high proportion of glazing to the east elevation. The gross internal area is approximately 380 sqm which equates to a retail floor area of 243 sqm. Refuse, loading and storage areas are located to the rear of the building. An ATM will be installed in the south elevation of the building. Currently, the opening hours and staff levels are not known.

 
Blackpool Civic Trust - the existing building is of local and historic architectural significance and also sits well with other properties in the area. For these reasons the existing building should be saved.

Built Heritage Manager - the building is of local architectural interest and is in a prominent corner location. Historic buildings are non-renewable assets and should be recycled by finding a new use, whilst demolition and rebuilding is not a sustainable form of development. Furthermore, as the proposed design does not contribute to the architecture in the area it does not justify the demolition of the existing building.

Design and appearance - the existing building is on the draft Local List and it is recognised that it has some architectural merit. However, it is important to note that this local designation does not offer the building any form of protection against demolition by a developer. It should also be noted that the building has not been in continuous use since it was vacated by the Bank and that this may reflect its lack of versatility to accommodate other uses. Given it is an isolated building and there are other examples of this type of building in the town its loss is not considered significant having regard to paragraph 135 of the NPPF. For these reasons, a new build development is considered appropriate and unavoidable at this time.

Summary - the principle of a retail use at this site is considered appropriate given its relationship to the existing centre (and its previous commercial uses) and it is not felt that the proposal would unduly impact on visitor or residential amenity, or highway and pedestrian safety. Furthermore, the proposal will bring new development to the area, helping to regenerate it by creating jobs as well as bringing a vacant site back into use.

So just a matter of time before TESCO moves in!

Tuesday, 11 December 2012

Layton Jewish Cemetery

I am sticking these pictures and information in the Roads and artifacts blog. Maybe the Memorials blog could be the right place.... buts it's kind of abandoned - run down and sort of desolate. Many cemeteries of all creeds are. I believe that there is an ex-serviceman in here but I never found him.
Next to Layton Institute - will it be flattened? - will it be saved? is the Jewish cemetery. I went school in a half Jewish area in Manchester so met many Jews and remained friendly for many years - at least until I moved to the Fylde. Certainly Carleton has many Jewish graves now. No idea when the last internment was - More research needed especially on Samuel Comor and perhaps the Jewish community.
There is a memorial in the synagogue.

ERECTED BY THE BLACKPOOL HEBREW CONGREGATION
THIS TABLET IS DEDICATED
TO THE MEMORY OF THE LATE
SAMUEL HENRY COMOR
1927 5687

View from the gate on Westcliffe Drive. The large red building on the right is Layton Institute.
Amazingly popular in its heyday

The institute behind the gravestones

At the bottom of the path, looking towards the left.

Looking back towards the left

Wider angle view of the above picture

Looking straight back up the path

To the left. The Institute is on the far left.
A bit more telephoto to this shot

Looking from the bottom corner towards the institute.





Leaving the cemetery. This building may have a name.
It does not seem large enough to hold a large ceremony,
perhaps it serves a similar purpose to a lych gate that a traditional Christian burial would have.




Saturday, 8 December 2012

Milestone on the B5192

Pictures of a very substantial milestone. This is very large, made of concrete, and cemented to someone's wall. It is also halfway up the rise of the "back" road into Kirkham. About 250 yards from the Dowbridge on the right hand side, opposite Glebe Lane. This milestone is documented on the Milestone Society database.
Half a mile from the Dowbridge cross .

Here are the Pictures:
Preston
7 3/4  Miles

Kirkham

I think it says?
Kirkham
?/? Mile? (possibly 3/4 - that would be about right)
Blackpool
10 Miles


It is steep, but not quite as steep as the photo suggests.
Holding the wall up!

Not sure about this. On the opposite side of the road
and considerably smaller than any of the chunky stone milestones locally.


Dowbridge Cross at Kirkham

This excerpt comes from here: www.lancashire.gov.uk/.../KirkhamComplete_LowRes.pdf 

 Dowbridge was known as Galebridge in the medieval period, and was one of four bridges taking roads into Kirkham. It is first mentioned around 1268 in a charter for Cockersands Abbey as Dalebrigehevet (Farrer 1898). It is called Dale Brigge in a lease for c1279 (LSMR 1374). The bridge is likely to have always been wooden, as it was still recorded as made of wood up to the mid-nineteenth century (OS 1847 1:10,560). There was also a cross in Dowbridge documented in 1558. It marked the end of the Abbey lands on the east side of Kirkham. The site is still marked by a modern Latin cross of stone 1.55 metres high (LSMR 1375). Tarnbrick Cross (LSMR 1636), mentioned in the same agreement, stood near Tarnbrick Farmhouse and marked the western end of Abbey Lands, and the Headless Cross marked the southern boundary (LSMR 1376).
These latter two crosses lay outside the defined urban area for Kirkham.

Barely visible, Half buried

Clearly a chip out of the top section.
It is more obvious when you view it close to

No surprise that I have driven past this cross several times,
it was summer last time when the grass was higher.
I even had the map reference!


All that's left are further comments: the cross seems to be completely ignored, whether there is a pedestal in there beneath the "new" Latin cross is difficult to know. The fact that some fairly new damage has been done does not bode well for the future. I feel that this artifact(parts of) that may well date back 500 years is of concern. There are road signs and clear road works close to it. The definition held by English Heritage no longer matches the description of this cross.
This is monument no 586927 at English Heritage.

Tuesday, 27 November 2012

St Cedd's well - Lastingham

Well quite a lot of debate about the antiquity of this well - and indeed these Yorkshire wells. Looking at the architecture it does seem rather unlikely that any part of them dates back before 1800 at all (The guess is all mine). For me the significant thing is that there is a well at all and it does highlight the village of Lastingham. Unfortunately I did not realise there were 3 wells at Lastingham and I only found the one. However St Cedd is indeed a very real and significant person in the history of early Christianity.
A link to the datastore for the church is here. I features many items of interest which predate these wells.

The well on the road approaching Lastingham church
Close examination shows that it seems quite modern.
The spout is set in a lions mouth. The shape and form of the pillars is similar to the pillars in the crypt of Lastingham church


Made of wood
CEDD
ABBIE LASTINGA FUNDATOR
AD 654
OBIT AD 664 ET SEPTULTUS EST
?N ECCLESIA A DEXTRA ALTARIS

(Not sure this is even good Latin)
My translation is:
Founder of lastingham in AD 654, died in AD 664
The church will sustain (My interpretation)

Ecclesia - Church
Dextra from Dexter - right handed or the right to
Altaris from Alo Altum to nourish or sustain







Close up of the stone work above the wooden plinth
Quite primitive stone work

The church is is the distance. This is a bridge and the well is to the right.
The YNR plaque is right and the end of the left hand wall.
I have a feeling that this is to do with railways!
I could be wrong!
There will be a link to the Lastingham memorial and also to the church - fascinating places - got to be a second look.

Sunday, 25 November 2012

Ignioc Stone - St. Clement, Cornwall

Close to the entrance to the church at St Clement stands the Ignioc Stone, A detailed description of the scant information relating to this stone is here. Examination is persuasive that the top cross is considerably later. However the inscription is visible.

"VITALI FILI TORRICI" Vitalus son of Torricus

Thomas/1994, 244, caption to 15.7: `Note angle-bar A...and use of Demetian-originating horizontal I'.
Thomas/1994, 245, notes that this is the only Dumnonian inscription that uses an angle-bar A in a Latin-name.(from the above website)

(I have used Wiki links to supplement the information above- The pictures are all mine of course)

There are some comments about the validity of the Latin in the above website. The stone is dated approx 500 AD. The Romans had left Britain then. There influence was huge - but it seems that the inscription had been largely Celtic.

The Ignioc Stone
First scheduled as a National Monument
22nd March 1932 when it stood in the
vicarage drive from which it was
moved and re-erected here 8
November 1938. Rescheduled January 1939

The stone near the church

Just visible, the colour of the stone matches the church.

This path leads to beach. The whole aspect slopes down to the sea.
The grounds are unkempt - but it seems right and proper.
There will be a blog page dedicated to the church, the inside is extremely interesting and steeped in history. This is one place that must be visited to feel the antiquity and history.

Saturday, 17 November 2012

Cross Base at the church of St Thomas, Garstang

There are 2 interesting objects next to each other.
The first object is a cross base situated within the grounds of St Thomas'  church in Church street , Garstang.

Little to say about this except that the 2 parts actually do look like they belong together. The base has also had the corners chamfered as well as the shaft.

The cross base. The wall at the back is the edge of church property


This benchmark with a bolt is on the church, it is literally a few yards away. This is the entry on the bench mark register. 

1GL Bolt: Garstang, Church   

Bolt in North-west face of Garstang Church tower ; 4.99 ft. above ground [1GL, Liverpool to Port Carlisle, Mark No. 157]; PA BOLT W ANG ST THOMASS CH TWR (22.8256m ODN, 0.5m AGL).

Location
Grid reference: SD 4907 4505.
Landranger 102: Preston & Blackpool, Lytham St Anne's.
Structure: Church / Chapel.
Waypoint: BT1321.

Neighbouring Bench Marks
BM Garstang Bridge (NBM) 224.72m to the east.
BOLT Garstang Bridge 241.66m to the southeast.
BOLT Highroad Bridge 722.50m to the southeast.
PIVOT Garstang, Milestone, Preston 10 1.04km to the southeast.
BOLT Calder Bridge 1.95km to the southeast.
The nearest fundamental bench mark is Lancaster, 16.13km to the north.

First Primary Levelling, England & Wales (1840-60)
This bench mark was used during the First primary levelling, England & Wales, and was levelled with a height of 75.0420 feet [22.8728 metres] above mean sea level (Liverpool datum). It was included on the Liverpool to Port Carlisle levelling line. The surveyor's description was No. 157. Bolt in North-west face of Garstang Church tower ; 4.99 ft. above ground (p415).

Third Geodetic Levelling, England & Wales (1950-68)
This bench mark was used during the Third geodetic levelling, England & Wales.

Logged Visits
Visited on 16th September 2012 by dal. Condition: Good.
Bolt at centre of cut mark. Fine condition. The two sides of the arrow have double cuts.
 I suspect dal had visited it at the same time as me.
The Garstang church benchmark - I do not really look out for these things.
I also discovered 2 servicemen's graves in the churchyard.

All Hallows church sundial, Bispham

Seven metres south of the parish church in Bispham there is a square stone pillar placed in what appears to be an octagonal stone base. The stone base is "tied" with straps to hold it together.

This object has several pictures on the internet. However seeing it for real, one senses the antiquity. These are my 2 pictures.

Taken towards the Lych Gate,
facing Bispham village, a general south direction.

From the south door
This is the excerpt from English Heritage.

SD 34 SW BLACKPOOL ALL HALLOWS ROAD, BISPHAM

1/2 Sundial 7 metres South of
Bispham Parish Church (All Hallows)

II

Sundial on stone shaft said to be base of former cross. Shaft of square
section approximately 1 metre high, mounted in octagonal stone block on
circular stone disc; incised letters "IH" on north side, "RB" on west side
("IH" = "John Hull", donor of sundial, "RB" possibly "Robert Broadbelt",
parish clerk 1678-1715). Sundial plate originally dated 1704 with names
John Hull and Joh Hebblethwaite, and motto "Die dies Truditur", now only
partially legible. (VCH Lancs vol. 7 p. 244).


Listing NGR: SD3189840566

The Latin inscription, which is open to interpretation,  means " day rushes after day"

There are 2 more objects in the church which are very interesting as well as the memorials which have not yet been described.

I have not brought anything new to this object. Although it is one of a surprising number of older objects still about the Fylde Coast.